They'll be in a string resource somewhere - I'd suggest using my Resource Searcher proggie to find them. I'd look for you, but I'm on XP so it wouldn't be the same results.

Check user32.dll. Here are the results for a search on XP:mmsys.cpl\stringtable.rc:5841, "Restore Down"
user32.dll\stringtable.rc:903, "Restore Down"
winmm.dll\stringtable.rc:3016, "Restore Down"
wmploc.dll\stringtable.rc:1871, "Restore Down"
wmploc.dll\stringtable.rc:2160, "Restore Down"

No luck. Couldn't find that stuff on 2k. Thanks for the prog though, and the help guys.

ahh...interesting question...I'll see if I can dig that up.

Yeah, lemme know, please.

Part of the answer: tooltips are in win32k.sys, message table #1.

Can be opened in resource hacker, and it presents it in an editable fashion, yet it cripples the file. Everything works, but tooltips are garbled.

So I tried (in XP) a hex editor, now can't boot into 2k anymore (just changed one character).

So the question remains, which tool is capable of safely editing ?

plastic: did you try with pe-explorer / resource tuner? ( it's shareware btw )

Well gentlemen... leave it to good ole WinT, and especially good ole Windows 98 (you've just got to love it)... as I have found these sought after tooltips

Believe it or not, in Windows 98, they are located in the 16-bit executable file that 98 still has to have, the all famous... USER.EXE

Right there, in a stringtable, you can mod the usual hell out of them... rename or delete I renamed just for show, as I typically have these tooltips, well, all tooltips turned off (use X-Setup to achieve that)

You'll see in the image that I'm hovering over the "Minimize" button, which now, it's tooltip says "Down" . The maximize tooltip is titled "Full", the Restore tooltip is titled "Normal" , and the Close tooltip is titled "Exit". You'll only see that one tooltip though, just so you get the idea.

Anyway, I certainly don't know where they're at in XP, but surely they are available, somehow or another. Anyway, hope it helps someone out during their search.

P.S.

Using BBLean as most of you know, so my window buttons are "hidden" using the skinning feature of BB... figured I'de say that just in case it confused anyone.
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/57244/tool.jpg

Not in user.exe in 2k and XP. I'm sure they are in win32k.sys in 2k, and succeeded in killing 2k with des' suggestions, and additionally PE resource explorer and frhed. File gets corrupted, blue screen at boot.

The fact reshacker doesn't succeeed, but also doesn't corrupt the file may suggest there is a tool to do this, but I can't find it.

I hate that plastic, seems like you found them, but if you touch it, it goes nuts? That's no good, though doesn't this seem like the old days? I remember running into that problem all the time... countless crashes and re-installs, just for little peices of text and whatever else... ah, fun times, good times

Someone's bound to get it though.

(offtopic, but somewhat related) I used to adore Win98, and would laugh at the Win2k guys. However, now that I'm accustomed to XP, I find working in Win98 clumsy. I really think you'll like XP when you finally make the plunge, WinT.

I'm very sure your correct there beaker, and I look forward to the day that I have a better computer, with a working copy of XP to use, I really do. I'de love to have visual styles, and countless other options that I do not have here in 98, but, will just have to wait until the money is available I guess

I did this tooltip thing though just thinking it might help in the search... in fact, I'de never even thought about doing tooltip mods at all, cause as I said above, I have all of mine turned off, never see them... but it was fun though, searching for them and all... I miss that sort of thing. I wish I had something else to look for now

Thanks WinT for your help, it gives me hope to know that someone can accomplish this task.

WinT's discovery makes me think. Editing tooltip text is possible on win9x, but not on win2k. This is perhaps for the same reason that eppie will work on 9x systems but not on 2k?

If we can get to the heart of one problem, we might be able to solve the other one too... Eppie on 2k and above, with an added ability to edit tooltip would be welcomed by all, IMHO.

Thanks for the suggestions so far, guys.

I'm more than sure that someone like Grigri, with his knowledge and all, could make Eppie work for 2k/XP, I know he could, I guess it's just a matter of whether or not he does/would have/has the time to do so.

I'm also fairly certain that something would have been developed by now for 2K/XP, but have you ever noticed that XP just dominated over everything? 2K was just sort of overlooked I think... meaning, that with the implementation of visual styles, and all of their power, I guess developers just don't see a need for an "Eppie" type of app? It seems that way anyway

Going back to the tooltip mods though GrandDizzy... I'de be willing to place a large amount of money on the fact that it's a doable mod within 2K, just a matter of finding the right way. So many mods for 98 started this way, I mean, I just can't count all of them, really. I'de think it would be impossible, then wham, I'de find it, randomly, often by mistake too

Anyway, it's bound to come, keep searching, you will nail it, I really think you will.

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